Hijrah (for americans, british, especially)

[sasjamal]

Most everyone I have known since I got into Islam has spoken of Hijrah as if its some kind of dream, and many of my friends even have shunned it when the opportunity arose -

Its really sad, but after having lived in a Muslim country for a year or so now, and being in a place where I do hear the adhaan ALL day, where amazingly nice humble people come (old and young alike) and sit with you and you are surrounded by muslims all around, plenty of opportunities to spread the salams (and feed people) -

If you ever actually want to actualize this dream, which really comes down to being afake dream unless you do it -

Its just so damn easy, if your a muslim and carry a western passport - its to easy, you have an easy way to do it - no need to worry about jobs, nice friends, etc. no family - it all comes in time, its easy.

I really wish I could just get one person I know to actually do it.

So someone else please just pack up and do it - its so easy, so awesome, so woth it, and so much fresh bread in most of the muslim countries, -

[Mutawakel_ala_Allah]

Please send me a way to contact you personally so I can discuss this with you. I am serious.
As admin you should have my e-mail address.

[Insight]

Please expand on this, or do you have a personal email where we can discuss? InshAllah I seriously need to get out of here!

Somewhere I can work and learn and of course get married < any places that fi this criteria?

[Talib]

I think in an ideal world, we would all like to do this. Some people have financial constraints or dont have the skills to get a job as easily as you may have as well as other issues.

But yes i would agree with Sas if you can, take the plunge or at least experience it.

[animal thug]

i'm sure we know that making hijrah to a muslim country is not hard at all. thing is we want to live in the best islamic atmosphere for our children. i mean there's a lot of muslim countries out there that are no different than the western nations of the kuffar, some are even worse. also there are concerns about language barriers.

[sasjamal]

Originally Posted by animal thug

i'm sure we know that making hijrah to a muslim country is not hard at all. thing is we want to live in the best islamic atmosphere for our children. i mean there's a lot of muslim countries out there that are no different than the western nations of the kuffar, some are even worse. also there are concerns about language barriers.

I am not talking about people like you who do NOT want to live in a muslim country.

I am talking about those people who DO dream and want to (and do not consdier stupid things like language barriers, kids and whats a better envirorment, america or africa) -

Those people who just simply want to live in a muslim country and deal with all of its problems, and already think without a doubt its better then any non muslim enviroments.

You people should just come, its to easy -

And no you do not need skills, you can always find someone to live with until you get skills. Or you can be an unskilled worker like the rest of the world - Tons of remedial jobs with remedial pay lets tons of people 'live'-

Sas

[animal thug]

Originally Posted by sasjamal

I am not talking about people like you who do NOT want to live in a muslim country.

ok, how do you know what i want and what i dont want? your assumptions are baseless. oh and its stupid for one to desire a safe islamic environment for his/her children?

i'm not saying dont go, all i'm saying is dont make any rash decisions. do some research, visit different countries and make istikhara.

and yes there are muslim countries out there that are worse than us/uk.

[sasjamal]

Yes, its totally stupid -

And again, as I mentioned it does not apply to anyone who believes that non muslim countries are in any way better then a muslim country - and to even bring up language barriers as if its a problem - also means I am not talking about such a person.

Anyone who says things like rash, research, and yes, even istikhara in this situation is pointless.

You do not make istikhara before making tahajjud.

Sas

[animal thug]

when making any major life changing decision one should ALWAYS make istikhara. did i say make istikhara before you decide to make hijrah? what i meant is make istikhara before you choose which muslim country you'd wanna go to. do you make istikhara to decide whether or not you should work or do you make istikhara to decide whether or not you should take this particular job? do you make istikhara to decide whether or not you should get married or do you make istikhara to decide whether or not you should marry this particular woman? come on this is common sense.

personally i think its stupid to move to a place where it may become even more difficult for you to practice islam simply because it is known as a "muslim" country? why turn a bad situation into an even worse one?

[sasjamal]

As i said, it just does not apply to anyone who thinks like you -

And no istikhara is not neccessary for marriage either -

Do not make hijrah.

Sas